Stand Grammar School

Church Lane, Whitefield, Manchester
Demolished 2001 AD
 
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Pictures of the demolition well under way...

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Forty Years On...  pictures from the 1950's


Pictures from the Demolition Dinner school tour
 

The History of Stand Grammar School   * New *

Newsflash - Howard Jacobson wine the Booker Prize! See here...

Picture of First Form, 1966, courtesy of Nev Young

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What does "Gaudeamus Igitur" mean?
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"Gaudeamus Igitur" will play every time you reload this page. I'm really sorry! However, it does rather sound like Benjy Britten did when we were practising for Founders' Day!


"Gaudeamus Igitur" to you all!

I created this page as I get more visitors from the old School than from anywhere else. I find that remarkable after all these years. I mean, who would have thought, when I was buying my school cap from Brookes Brothers of the Rock, Bury, Lancashire, in 1967, that over thirty years later I would be scanning the badge on it into my computer (impossible!) for a logo for my web page (a what?) on the Internet (!?!?!?).  They didn't teach us that in metalwork, did they?

So, from now on, those of you from the old School who contact me will be entered into my Hall of Fame (or maybe my Virtual Detention area) and preserved for all time. In this way, those of us who (as predicted by our old School Reports) turned out to be complete and utter failures will, in some small way, have achieved a measure of immortality.

I will publish the best school stories here, and how good they are will determine whether you are put in the Hall of Fame or in Virtual Detention. Click here to send your stories!

Do you remember the nuckle-rapping woodwork teacher? The physics teacher who could lift you from your seat with your sideburns? Do you remember a  music teacher who used to like to fiddle? And I don't mean violin, if you catch my drift. In his eyes, Head Boy had a very different meaning.  They're all here...




Stand Grammar School Plaque

Here's a photo of the plaque put up by the Old Standians at the entrance to the old school site.  I'd rather have seen the school there still, but this will have to do!:


Old Standians Plaque




The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2013


This year’s annual dinner will be held at Stand Golf Club, Ashbourne Grove, Whitefield, on Friday 25th October 2013.  In order to mark the opening of the school building in Church Lane in 2013, which was then co-educational, the invitation this year has been extended to include the wives of any Association members who attended Stand Girls School. In keeping with this theme celebrating an age of emerging enlightenment, the guest speaker this year will be Beryl Shepherd (nee Wynne), a past pupil and teacher at Stand Girls School.

An application form is here:  Dinner.pdf





Movie Trivia

In Mike Leigh's film 'Naked', the following song appears . Not everyone knows (though I know some of you do) that it was written by John 'Tab' Hunter *.   Mike Leigh had heard it in a Jewish boy's  club in Manchester  and assumed it to be traditional. After the film's release in  1993,  he was contacted by a certain retired schoolmaster who had written it in about 1950 for a school review.

'Take me back to Manchester where it's raining,
I want to wet me feet in Albert Square.
I'm all agog for a good thick fog,
I don't like the sun, I like it raining cats and dogs.
I want to smell the odours of the Irwell,
I want to feel the soot get in me hair.
Oh, I don't want to roam, I want to get back 'ome,
To rainy Manchester!'


* Indidentally, he was named 'Tab' after the famous  American  actor.  In later years, boys who had never heard of Tab Hunter assumed the name to be 'Tabs' after his stumpy fingers.  I have no idea how he got those.


Lawrence McGinty makes it onto University Challenge Christmas Edition

Have we had any other ex-pupils on University Challenge? I can't recall at the moment, but it might be worth looking into!

Lawrence McG



The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2012

The Dinner was held in the Memorial Hall, Longfield Suite, Prestwich, on Friday 30 November 2012.   Any photos, anyone?



Latest News

At the last AGM, a secretary could not be appointed. Please note the following changes to our contact details (I will obtain email contact details soon)...

Membership:  Harry Wilkinson  (harry.wilkinson27@ntlworld.com)

Annual Dinner: Paul Latham

Minutes: John Lillie

Ties, books and  other memorabilia: Hywel Evans

'Notes and News': Geoff Minshull, Phil Myers




David Dean (son)



Some homework for you!

I'm writing a biography of John Ogdon, Howard's son, and was interested to learn from Joseph Baker (1942-7) that John gave a piano recital in the  School Assembly Hall at Stand in 1946 or 1947. He would have been 9 or 10 at the time. I'm wondering if any other of your members recalls the  occasion? I see, for instance, that Ian Hanson would have been at the  school then but I don't have an email for him. Would it be possible for you  to post a message asking if anyone remembers the recital? As I say, I have  already been in correspondence with Joseph Baker. 1947 may be the likelier  year as that's the year that Howard Ogdon took over the presidency of the  Music Society at Stand.

Thanks and best wishes,

Charles Beauclerk

So, there you go - if  you remember this recital, please contact me and I'll pass on the message to Charles!

The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2011

The Dinner was held in the Memorial Hall, Longfield Suite, Prestwich, on Friday 25 November 2011.   Has anyone got any photographs for me?



The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2010


Phil Myers

Just trying to get a general view of the room
Phil Myers

Whoops, didn't mean to wake you, Phil! ;o)
Phil Hargreaves

Pete B

Phil Hargreaves

Phil Hargreaves gets a plaque commemorating his long service as OSA President.
Phil Hargreaves

Phil Hargreaves



Phil Hargreaves

Now we know what the B in P. B. H. stood for!

Lawrence McGinty

Lawrence McGinty kicks off his reminiscences.
'What a lot of white hair! I hope it's a mild winter...'
The Church Inn

I fell in with a bad crowd and got dragged to The Church Inn. I hadn't been here in years!
Thanks, guys!




Newsflash

No recent news at the time of writing.

February 2008: It is with sadness that we announce the death of Brien Crossfield...


I'll start by introducing myself, my name is Andrew Crossfield and I am  Brien's son, It is with a great amount of sadness that I let you know of my fathers death.

He died yesterday (27th Feb 08) aged 82.  As you may or may not know he suffered a major stroke 5 years ago and had been struggling ever since, his passing was very peaceful and he was surrounded by the people who loved him.

My memories of him over the last 42 years are vivid to say the least as I'm sure yours are too! I remember as a child him showing me all the planets and stars through a telescope and trying to explain what a gas giant was (I always found that term hilarious!)

He will be hugely missed by everyone who knew him and i'm sure, remembered with great fondness.
My mum is carrying on the Crossfield tradition and bearing up well as are my sister Helen and myself.

If you feel inclined it would be great to hear some of your memories of him, I can be contacted at pincrossfield@yahoo.com

So I'll finish by wishing you all the best and hope you'll join me in saying "goodbye" to a real life Mr Chips!
Oh yes, I think if you look up at those stars tonight, There'll be one more looking down on us from now on.

Many thanks for taking time to read this and all the best to you and  yours.

Andrew Crossfield.


From The Bury Times, February, 2008...

A FORMER headteacher, who later set a 'bench-mark' by serving as a JP for 22 years, has retired.

Greenmount man Mr David Hudson was recruited as a Bury magistrate in 1986. Now, he has retired after reaching the age of 70.

He came to Whitefield in 1970 as head of Stand Grammar School in Whitefield, later becoming principal of Stand Sixth Form College and Vice Principal of Bury College.

As a JP, he served as deputy chairman of the Bury bench between 1998 and 2003 and then bench chairman between 2003 and 2005.

He was also chairman of the Greater Manchester Magistrates Forum in 2005 and, at the same time, chairman of the Greater Manchester Justices' Issues Group. This is a statutory body set up by Parliament to support the independence of the district judges and lay magistrates.

He officially retired from the bench this week and received gifts from fellow magistrates, including a framed certificate to mark his long service as a JP.

Mr Hudson said: "My 22 years seem to have passed very quickly. It's been a great privilege to work with so many keen and supportive colleagues and to be of some service to the Bury community.

"I would encourage anyone to become a JP if they want to take on a voluntary task which not only contributes to the well-being of the town, but also provides great interest and good training in areas unfamiliar to most of us."

He has been a long-time member of Radcliffe Athletic Club. Not only has he run eight marathons, but has cycled to India to raise funds for leprosy relief. David lives with his wife, Pauline.




I have just received news of the death of  Mr Hynes from Lance Jarrett...

HYNES (RICHARD WALTER) - Peacefully on November 10 2007, at a local hospital with his Family by his side. A much loved Husband to Beryl, and devoted Father to Allison and Phillip. A very proud and loving Grandfather to Simon, Colin, Thomas, Jessica, Georgina and Zoe. A true gentleman who will be greatly missed by all of his Family and Friends. Funeral service and committal will take place at Agecroft Crematorium on Friday November 23 at 11.00am. Family flowers only please, donations preferred to Francis House, Didsbury. All inquiries and donations to Carriages Funeral Service, 260 Liverpool Road, Eccles M30 0SD. Tel: 707 9199.

 Published  19/11/2007


Aerial View of the school sometime pre-demolition

Only a few months ago this whole area of Lancashire was assembled from satellite imagery taken after demolition, then it was replaced by this higher-resolution pre-demolition imagery...

Source: Google Maps, made available here under their terms for personal, non-commercial use.


Now here's some homework...

...from Tony Wilding, Hon. Sec. of the OSA:

The Hon Secretary of the Old Standians’ Association is compiling a history of the Association and if any members have relevant information could they send this to him for copying (with consent, of course). All originals will be returned, if so required, otherwise they will be handed to the Bury Archivist. Photos of the "Old School”, ie not Church Lane, welcome.

Also, does anyone have possession of, or know the whereabouts of, the original O.S.A. Minute Book for 1906-1928? It was with T.C. Taylor (now deceased) in 1976 but seems to have vanished.


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2010

Download a PDF  booking form here.

The Dinner will be held in the Memorial Hall, Longfield Suite, Prestwich, on Friday, 26 November, 2010. 

 

Assemble 7:00pm for 7:30pm prompt start.  Licensed bar to midnight.  Charge: £25 per person.

Those wishing to attend must confirm whether they require the Vegetarian Option, otherwise it will be assumed that the Standard Option will be required. Please return the attached slip with your remittance to:

The Hon Secretary OSA

21 Spruce Crescent

Limefield Brow

Bury

Lancashire

BL9 6QW

... no later than 18th November 2010.


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2009

If  anyone has photos of this event, as I couldn't make it this year, please email me.


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2008

If  anyone has photos of this event, as I couldn't make it this year, please email me.


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2007

If  anyone has photos of this event, as I couldn't make it this year, please email me.


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2006

The Dinner was held in the Main Hall, Longfield Suite, Prestwich on Friday, 24 November, 2006.
 
 
This was our biggest gathering in many years (ever, maybe?), because it was the 100th anniversary of the association and, mainly, because of the attendance, this year, of many of the Old Girls. This year, there were over 170 attendees. I, for one, hope this continues.
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Two generations of Old Standians, the Mills family,  mother and son

David Heywood and yours truly

And two generations of  headmaster, Dr Geoff Barnes...

... and David Hudson, both looking little older, forty years on or not!

Jack Walton sporting his newly-acquired mayoral bling. Unfortunately we didn't have time for a raffle or auction this year, so all the extra cash I'd brought in the hope of getting my hands on a Lowry went unused!

The Old Girls look for familiar faces from the old panoramic photographs.


 
 
 
 


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 25th November, 2005.

The Annual Dinner was held in the Memorial Hall, Longfield Suite, Prestwich on Friday, 25 November, 2005.
 
 
 
 
 
It was quite a gathering this year, with 66 people turning up; one of our bigger turn-outs this last few years.
Everyone gets stuck into the food...
It's time for the raffle tickets. We are handing over tenners, fivers, twenties, and the raffle ticket guy is trying to remember who gets how much change! "I owe you a fiver, you give me that tenner and you get that five. You give me that twenty, he gives his tenner and I give you this fiver. Now we're square. Hang on, where was I?"
This year's guest speaker is William McVicar, organist and adviser to the Royal Festival Hall
And tonight, the spotlight of fate lands on...

'Tarz' Reynard.

Pete Bramah hands out sticky name labels. It comes in handy when your memory isn't what it used to be.
William McVicar  reminds everyone why it was, in the 1950's & 60's or so, so vitally important to remember one's gym kit.

William: "Please sir, I've forgotten my gym kit. Please may I be excused?"

Haggis (and occasionally, Ivor Jones): "If you have forgotten your gym kit, you will have to do gym..."

Audience: "...Naked!"

Our traditional toast - 

"The Queen, The Duke of Lancaster"


 
 
 


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 26th November, 2004.

   

 
 
 
 

Just as soon as I can locate my notes from the evening I'll tell you who the guest speaker is. I think I'd better give myself some lines.

More raffle prizes! Plenty of wine and spirits, as usual. I'm guessing that the fire extinguisher in the background is not included.

 

Another sale of 'Famous Old Standian' cards!

I've just managed to chop off Pete Bramah on the left (my photo composition apparently needs work).  I also neglected to take a picture of the splendid chap on my right, who did the odd magic trick with his fingers and rubber bands. If I had, I might have been able to figure out how he did it!


 
 
 


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 29th November, 2003.

Another excellent evening, I'm sure everyone will agree! The guest speaker this year was Ian Wagstaff, who lives near Newcastle Upon Tyne and is, by profession, a Gynaecologist and Obstetrician.

Ian's rivetting recollections were peppered with tangential medical observations, which may or may not have had relevance at the time, but which were hilarious nonetheless. These covered a range of subjects, which may or may not have included the bowlegged gait of a certain ancient groundsman ("...often due to fairly advanced syphilis...")  and the posture of the discus thrower in the Carnegie collection, oft used as a breast pocket emblem on a sportsman's blazer ("...typical of a serious haemorroid condition or anal fissures..."). 

The best line of the evening, for me, was his relating of an incident in a Newcastle delivery room...
Husband (whilst wife is giving birth): "Er, doctor, I was wondering how soon we will be able to have sex again"
Doctor:  "Gentlemen prefer to wait until the placenta has been passed"

Jack Walton auctions off some more school memorabilia.. Here he is attempting to record my photography as a bid. No-one dare scratch his nose, sip a drink or raise an eyebrow while this is going on! This time it's a painting of the school by our resident artist and OSA Secretary, Tony Wilding.  A copy of this is also available, unframed, for £6, if I remember correctly, details from Tony (see the membership application form for his details). 

And why is this man improperly dressed again? Sell him an Old Standians tie, pronto!


 
We appear to have some of  some of  the former Old Girls* attending these days.
 

* That phrase sounded so much better in my head!


 
How many of you remember his chap, Brien Crossfield? He taught Chemistry  and took a bunch of us skiing on the school trip to Selva val Gardena, in the Italian Dolomites, in 1970. We stayed in the splendidly unpretentious Hotel Luna for two weeks, where we made absolute nuisances of ourselves. Several of you who are in touch with me were on that trip. I must try and dig out some photographs.  I have them, somewhere.

During 2002, Brien suffered a stroke and wasn't able to make dinner that year, but he was able to make the 2003 dinner, with the aid of a wheelchair. He's just a little shaky, but in remarkable good shape, all in all.  I wish him well, not least because he was responsible for my ability to ski.

Phil Hargreaves couldn't make it this year, for the first time since 1949, as he's very ill at the moment. Well, I hope he recovers and can make next year, but I do wonder one thing:

If I had what he's got, would it have got me out of his Gym class??


The Annual Dinner of the Old Standians Association, 2004.

More on next year's event soon. We expect it will be held at the same place, on Friday 26th November 2004.

Now, if you are sitting comfortably, we shall continue...


Pay attention and put this in your Homework Books!

Did you know - ...that Les Lumley was a scientist during WW2 working on the degaussing of ships.  He was also one of the first recipients of a new hip joint. In those days, they were plagued by a high failure rate due to the lack of sphericity of the ball and socket joint. Les made the suggestion that they could use an optical technique using polarised light to help to improve the accuracy of the spherical surfaces.

Let silence reign...

Most of you will know that the school has been demolished and replaced now a housing estate. A few seconds silence, boys, if you will.  But not everyone does, and I still get email from shocked Old Boys from all quarters if the globe.  I was, however, amused to get an email from a TV producer just over a year ago, asking if they could possibly use a picture or two for a TV programme they were making. The idea was to have Tony Wilson interviewing Howard Jacobson on the steps of his old school.  They were somewhat wrong-footed to find it three-quarters demolished!

Here's the pictures of the demolition.
 

Hall of Fame

The Register of Form 1C, 1967-1968

 
Abrahams Garlick Oster
Ansell Green Rose
Arnold Hadfield Samberg
Ashley Haigh Solman
Bellairs Hall Sowden
Casement Holt Turner
Doyle Ingham Walker (only with us until Christmas, then emigrated to Tasmania)
Drysdale Mills Warburton

Thanks are due to Mark Samberg and David Ansell for filling in the gaps! No thanks are due to me for taking since last Christmas to include the info that Mark sent me.


What's the worst report comment YOU ever had?

Well, now that I've moved the letters, we now have room for a few more categories. I'll kick this one off with a few of my own.  I must admit, I am likely to be streets ahead of most of you, as I was on weekly report several times. I can't even remember why, though will be something to do with being bad, failing to do homework or failing to deliver essays (in fact, I still owe Haggis 2 sides on Mice and 2 sides on Racehorses, from 1967!).  See if you can beat these! Here goes...

"Covers up for missing homework with lies and deceit" -  Baz Brooks, Maths. Gee whiz, that's a bit harsh! I came top of the class that year!

"A waste of space" - Mr Kershaw (I think. A a mustachioed compatriot of Haggis in 1967 and onwards), Gym.  Nothing new there, then.

"Remains bottom of the class, despite stiff opposition" - Hardwick, French, 1970. This guy was a student teacher, and something of a sadist. He used to try and outdo his own previous smart-arse comments every week, knowing the trouble it would get me into with the headmaster and at home. He also used to whack the ends of our outstretched fingers with the edge of a ruler, sometimes until the cuticles bled. We were more stupid than he was sadistic, though, as we told him that trick!  He then used to search us and confiscate our cigarettes.

"Sets himself a very low standard and consistently fails to achieve it" - Hardwick, French, 1970.  Thank you, Sir. Please may I have another?

Here's a couple from Peter Oldfield...

"An amazing result as he has done little work all year",  Miss Jones,
French 1974.  I actually worked damned hard all year but have a shocking
memory for names and french words!
 

Not a report , but a comment at the end of my geography homework in 1970,
from PBH, "Do you need a new pen or a new hand?"


Boys will be boys...

That 1970 Graffiti Incident…

One day, round about 1970, we arrived at school to find that someone had painted on the exterior walls between the Gym and Room 6 (Geography) a range of challenging phrases directed at one or two of the teachers. I remember we had "Apples, Pears, Bananas, Oranges. We've four teams, Go!", which was Haggis' legendary order to form four five-a-side teams, and quickly! There was something about 'Smelly' Smethurst, and a reference to Belsen, I think, though that might have been exaggerating the treatment we could expect for our crimes!
 

'Doc' Barnes was not best pleased in Assembly the next day, and made reference to the fact that he had a 100% clear-up rate on vandalism. The day after that, there were 'Doc' Barnes' words thrown back at him, painted on the wall! Whoops! The perpetrators were now known to be pupils.  Also, the paintbrushes, thoughtfully posted through the letterbox, were found to have come from an independent supplier, which narrowed it down to No 6 bus route boys.

The Beak invited suggestions from the boys as to who the culprit could be. Myself and Dave Gorrill even found ourselves on that list and were asked by 'Doc' Barnes for our comments on the matter. I still remember that list. It went something like "Arnold, Gorrill, Cooper, Narey, Cooper, Narey, Cooper, Narey, Cooper, Narey..."

How we got Miss Boulanger to show us her knickers (how much of this is rampant fantasy?)…

We used to have double Physics, with Don Revie, first thing in the morning, followed by English, with Miss Boulanger.  Both these lessons were conducted in Room 1 (off the main hall)  with all the windows wide open. Remember that this room was one of the old-fashioned ones with the huge sash windows. Don Revie liked all his windows to be wide open. Even in the middle of winter, we would have the windows open.  Even if there was rain or snow blowing in, we would have the windows open. Miss Boulanger wasn't so keen on fresh air as Don Revie was, so used to ask that we shut the windows.  We said that we weren't allowed to, for no other reason, as far as I recall, than to be contrary.  We were then surprised by Miss Boulanger going along all the windows, one by one, reaching as high as she could (and these skirts were pretty short, remember) and hauling down the huge sash windows one by one. She would have to squeeze between our desks, one by one, to do this, making little gasps of effort while she was doing it, while her skirt was riding over her hips!  I guess the only thing that was less than ideal about all of this was that she wore tights (that's panty hose to any of our transatlantic cousins), not stockings.

We used to bring in clothes pegs to split into wooden wedges in order to jam the windows wide open, just to make sure she would have to put some real effort into shutting the windows, and to put this effort in for long enough.  She did cotton on once, when we made too much noise behind her and she could no longer pretend to ignore it. With a slightly red face, she said "Something tells me, boys, that you're not putting all of your attention into your books!" We weren't, we were wondering whether 30 boys jumping on their teacher amounted to a detention or merely an essay.


Contributions from Old Standians

This term's Star letters... Click here!


Virtual Detention!

Me, for taking six months to add Ralph Lowe's name to the email links page!
 


The School Songs

Forty years on, when afar and asunder
Parted are those who are singing today,
When you look back and forgetfully wonder
What you were like in your work and your play.
Then it may be that there will often come o’er you
Glimpses of notes like the catch of a song,
Visions of boyhood shall float them before you,
Echoes of dreamland shall bear them along.

Chorus:
Follow up! Follow up! Follow up!
Follow up! Follow up!

Till the field ring again and again
With the tramp of the twenty-two men
 Solo: Follow up!  Chorus: Follow up!

Forty years on, growing older and older,
Shorter in wind as in memory long,
Feeble of foot and rheumatic of shoulder,
What will it help you that once you were strong?
God gave us bases to guard or beleaguer,
Games to play out, whether earnest or fun!
Fights for the fearless and goals for the eager,
Twenty and thirty and forty years on!

Chorus
 

Gaudeamus igitur        ) bis
Juvenes dum sumus       )
Post jucundam juventutem
Post molestam senectutem
Nos habebit humus        bis

Vita nostra brevis est  ) bis
Brevi finietur          )
Venit mors velociter
Rapit nos atrociter 
Nemini parcetur        bis

Vivat Academia          ) bis
Vivant Professores      )
Vivat membrum quodlibet
Vivat membra quaelibet
Semper sint in flore!     bis

 


So, what does it all mean?

Well, here's my first stab at a translation. If anyone knows better, be sure to let me know!
 
 
Latin: Literal: English (my paraphrasing):
Gaudeamus igitur We may be glad then  So let us rejoice (or, Paaaarrttyyy!)
Juvenes dum sumus The youths while we are While we are youths
Post jucundam juventutem After the pleasant youth
Post molestam senectutem After the annoying old age
Nos habebit humus We the ground will dwell We shall live in the soil
     
Vita nostra brevis est Life is short
Brevi finietur In a short time it is finished It is soon over
Venit mors velociter Death takes us quickly
Rapit nos atrociter It takes us cruelly
Nemini parcetur No-one will be spared
     
Vivat Academia May the school live Long live the School!
Vivant Professores May the Professors live Long live the Professors!
Vivat membrum quodlibet May every member live Long live every person!
Vivat membra quaelibet May all the members live Long live us all!
Semper sint in flore! May we/they may be always in flower! May we thrive!*
* Pretty damned unlikely, given the first two verses!
I am indebted to QuickLatin, © by Roger Pearse
www.quicklatin.com


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